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Post by thriftycrafter on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 16:52



This is what DS1 thought would be fun to buy while we were on our hols, he tried to pretend it was his mates and he was looking after it. The wrappers in the bin from the cage toys were a bit of a giveaway, but it's a very sensible thing to buy when you're about to be posted to Germany don't you think! Yes it is a bloomin rat, and moves a lot which is why its a blurry photo.
Don't tell him I said this but it is actually sort of cute, but I still don't do vermin. DS2 is being paid to look after it though.

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Post by Lorraine on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 16:55

Awwww, he's gorgeous.
I likes ratty's I does. Loves ya

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 17:07

my kids have been banned from keeping pets....they almost bought more goldfish after Geri won one at the fair.

i know ends up caring for creatures and mopping tears when they pass away.

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 18:30

Very cute rat however before Jen comes on here... it shouldn't be kept by itself and really needs another ratty friend to keep it company, though I dont chat there anymore (cos their a snotty bunch Smile) this site has a LOT of useful information about keeping rats. You may find that he was sold a cage much to small. Also the rat shouldn't be kept on hay or saw dust bedding (Hay can hurt their eyes, sawdust can upset their chest), the best is paper based cat litter, tesco do a bag for 2.

http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/home/

and if you've kept rats before I'll now shut up and not be condescending Very Happy however more pics please as I have a soft spot for agoutis Tee Hee

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 18:55

and no choccy..ratties are not allowed it 'apparently'.

good job i'm not a rat...she says munching on some yummy Lindt Lindor balls....purely medicinal...of course

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 19:23

Their allowed doggy chocolate or you can get these really tasty smelling organic yoggie drops from pets at home Mr Green

Chuck us one of those lindor balls you greedy goaty lol

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Post by thriftycrafter on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 21:52

No way is it getting choccy, I know it's bad for everyone except ME.
At the mo it's only in the cage for a few hours while the kids are at school and is V active at night running round it's bloomin wheel. DH wants to get it one of those football things that you can kick hamsters round in.
I know nothing about keeping vermin, so advice is good. It is NOT having a ratty friend tho as it's a girl apparently. It spends a lot of time running up and down inside the t-shirts of the rest of the family, which has DH in fits as he's a bit ticklish.
We've got official rat bedding stuff from the pet shop but will try the cat litter, less messy. Ta.

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 22:38

1. Is the wheel solid? If not and it's bars take it out as a rat can get it's tail trapped! This can result in the tail having to be amputated.
2. Do not get it a rodent ball, 99.9% of rats find these extremely traumatic! They like to free range, so better off finding a space i.e. the bath tub where it can't escape for exercise.
3. You can get another girl rat to go with her, girls are a lot easier to introduce than boys are. Mine went to Jens and were shoved into her big avairy with her 4/5 and they've been fine. 2 girls are better than 1.

What is the "official" rat bedding that the petshop sold you like? If it's like a cotton wool then that's a nono as well. Their better off with hammocks for sleeping in. A lady I know makes GORGEOUS good quality and almost 100% rat proof beds - http://fuzzbutt.users33.interdns.co.uk/

Sorry if you think I'm being pedantic, but if your son has any questions lots of rat owners here and mistyrat Cynthia runs the rodent rescue who can help out with advice.

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 22:51

Ok... I know you all think I'm crazy, but I love rats too much to not say anything. Rats need company of their own kind. It's not fair to keep one on their own. If you think about it, she is awake mainly when you are asleep (yes, rats are very forgiving about being woken up for snuggles, but they are noctournal) the rat is awake... And by herself. There is no better toy to a rat than another rat (nor a better pillow). Taking care of two is no more difficult than taking care of one, and you could even say it's easier... You don't HAVE to spend every waking moment with your pet (but, of course, you still can) if she has a ratty friend. Introducing girlie rats is easy!!! Like Kate said, her girls came here for their holiday and were just shoved into my girls' big aviary. A lone rat can (and will) get depressed which can cause her to self mutilate, over groom, stop eating, become lethargic, etc... Not a very nice life for her, is it? Rats make wonderful pets (I tell everybody who ever asks me what is the best pet for a child that a couple rats are) and are not vermin.

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 22:57

Oh, and I would never subject any of my pets to a hamster ball... It was created for our enjoyment, not that of the animals it is intended for. A small animal runs for cover if something startles it... How can it hide in a big plastic ball? It can't. Tis cruel in my opnion.

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Post by Bead Queen - Carol on Tue 23 Sep 2008 - 23:50

Awww what a cutie!!! She is a lovely colour too.

I agree you must get another girly ratty friend for her, honestly it doesnt involve more work or anything. They are very 'people friendly' and out of all the rodent type pets we have had, they are much cleaner!
I miss our two girls still, one of them died and the vet didnt know why, and within a few days so did the other (we think it was because the other one was lonely cos her friend died) we were all so gutted! The kids loved them so much (not to mention us) we all got attached so much to them, and they each had their own little personalities that were so funny.

Give her a cuddle for me, and go get her a play mate hehe.

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Wed 24 Sep 2008 - 8:49

Just u wait Karelyn, you'll be hooked Wink i remember me and mum having a argument in the middle of the pet shop when i got my first rat (not knowing at the time they should be kept in pairs at the minimum) and my mum finally giving in. She loved Willow, reminded her of beatrix potter character Smile

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Post by thriftycrafter on Wed 24 Sep 2008 - 18:51

I could always send it to you for company if it starts looking sorry for itself. I didn't want one, let alone give him permission to buy one, bring it home, then clear off himself. Having said that, it's a hit with the rest of the family and is currnetly on the sofa touring DD.
Will defo not get a ball then, the bedding is shavings not sawdust, I think it's more like chippings myself but I'll get the cat litter when I'm in Tesco's. The wheel is solid.
All advice is appreciated.
Much as I didn't want it, it's here and I'll see it's looked after well.
You'll be pleased to know it's name is Infidel!!! You can see why I call it Ratty.

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Wed 24 Sep 2008 - 20:35

I looked after a rat called Damien......... it was evil...

Shame i thought she more looked like a Honey than an Infidel lol

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Post by thriftycrafter on Wed 24 Sep 2008 - 22:13

He was going through a phase that month, I hope it ends within the next few years, might improve when he leaves the country, but who know. Love him dearly though.

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Post by mistyrat on Sat 27 Sep 2008 - 3:23

Just seen this thread. I specialise in fancy rats so the person to speak to really. I can only reinforce what others on here have already said . Rats are socialable creatures so do need company. This actually reduces the pressure from the owner as they demand less of our time. This doen't mean they stop interacting with us at all. No you will have one on each shoulder. Having two will also be much more fun for you as you watch the mischief they get into.
Rats kept in groups especially the girls have roles to play in the daily routine, bed making food gathering.
Jen came to my house today and we both laughed at one of my girls who was so industrious cleaning up and sorting the cage out Very Happy
Most important if you do take our advice make sure you do get a girl from a good place that can sex them right and not a pet shop as you could end up with a pregnant one. Pm me what area you live in and I can look out for someone or if you can get to me I could fix you up fine as I have loads in the rescue needing good homes.
Also if you need any further information on how to care for them you can email me on rat.rescue@ntlworld.com

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Post by WeirdCat on Sat 27 Sep 2008 - 10:11

Cute rat! Echo what others have said, our three used to have a whale of a time chasing each other but don't feed them broccoli, they love it but my goodness it makes their poo stink!

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Post by thriftycrafter on Sat 27 Sep 2008 - 16:51

Will remember that one, a bit like blokes then LOL

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Sat 27 Sep 2008 - 19:20

WeirdCat wrote:Cute rat! Echo what others have said, our three used to have a whale of a time chasing each other but don't feed them broccoli, they love it but my goodness it makes their poo stink!

lol! Ours dont actually like broccoli... they do like prawns though lol

Edited to add: dont feed oranges as they cause crystals in their bladder or something like that. Ours actually have fruit rabbit food (50p per half a kilo from the local petshop) & lots of fresh vegs & fruit, so cucumber, carrot, bananas, apples, pears. Need to make sure their diet is varied as they are omnivours likes us, so partial to meat/fish/egg but have to be careful not to feed them too much protein, though that's mainly boys!

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Post by mistyrat on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 3:45

To add to Kates post. Golden rule dont give them any citrus fruit or Avacado. The fruit from the avacado is ok but skin and stone poisonous. oranges can cause cancer in male rats.
Broccoli is very good for them as it helps prevent cancer cells. Celery is very good for the males as it helps flush their waterworks out preventing prostate problems when they get older. I tend to give the males a small amount of Cranberry juice when they get older as this also helps.

If you have any health issues with your rat please feel free to email me for advice as I do specialise in rats and a trained Rodentologist.
I am so glad to see that so many members on this forum actually keep rats. Amullree also has rats as she got hers from my rescue same as Jen and Kate.

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Post by thriftycrafter on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 18:32

3.45 am AM !!! what are you doing???
Have some celery, how much and what do you do , chop it up or just chuck a bit in, I'm guessing she can chew off what she wants. Unlikely to come across the avacado problem, don't know if we've ever had one in the house, but it's useful to know.
Thanks for all the advice girls, have any of you tried to make your own rat hammocks? Any stuffing to avoid?

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Post by mistyrat on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 22:02

Always feeding the rats at that time it takes me around 2-3 hrs to feed them. You can buy a fleece throw over for babies cot from Home Bargain for around 2 a roll which should make a few good size hammocks. Make a small hole in the corners and use large paper clips to hang them in the cage. Cheap and easy to wash and dry.

celery I usually chop off thin pieces for them to eat.

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Post by thriftycrafter on Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 16:52

I have fleece (and lots of other fabric), no probs, don't need to buy any. Thanks will do that, so she'll have a feast and a lovely warm bed thanks to you.

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Post by kt_dragonfly on Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 21:07

Ooooooooo i'll take to 2 if your starting a production line Mr Green

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Post by thriftycrafter on Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 21:50

I'll get the prototype test run first LOL, I haven't even dug the stuff out of the box yet, but if you want some I can send you some to rig up your own.

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